Is the C3 workshop a scam

Workshop fraud?

Hi Guys,

had to bring my car to the workshop the days when the bearings of the tension pulleys were ready. My current workshop also had to replace the timing belt because it was completely over - the 5 mark piece area broken out and absolutely cracked.

Now the car was exactly because of that about 2 years ago in another workshop to renew the above-mentioned parts and in addition the water pump ect. changed. My master also immediately said that this V-belt had never run 50,000 km, but much longer. Tension pulleys also last longer than the 50,000 km driven, which leads to the conclusion that nothing was changed back then.

Is it possible for me to be able to prove this properly? Should I call in an appraiser?

Thanks in advance for constructive help.

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You can have a material test report drawn up, but whether this brings the desired result to light and is economically justifiable is questionable.

A faulty installation of the water pump, clamped at an angle, can also have been the cause, because it works in some engines without anything leaking. But the toothed belt and the tension pulley are subject to enormous wear.

Shut up, briefly because of the request for an expert opinion with Dell counters, who can be found daily in the insurance forum.

In my opinion it will be difficult to impossible. The age of the toothed belt can certainly be determined. But how are you going to prove that this is the timing belt that the workshop installed two years ago?

greeting

Woldo

Nobody uses a used toothed belt voluntarily, especially when they can come apart in pieces at any moment ..

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Originally written by woldo66

But how are you going to prove that this is the timing belt that the workshop installed two years ago?

And even if you could prove that the timing belt is 6 years old. Then it can still have been lying in the warehouse for 4 years before the workshop installed it 2 years ago.

Mfg Zille

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Originally written by wvn

Since no damage has occurred, I would not open a barrel.

The bland aftertaste remains, however.

According to Audi, this repair was due after 120k, which I had done exactly at this point in time. If you then don't do the maintenance, you deliberately risk engine damage. To collect almost € 500.00 for nothing is clearly a fraud.

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Originally written by TQuattroT

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Originally written by wvn

Since no damage has occurred, I would not open a barrel.

The bland aftertaste remains, however.

According to Audi, this repair was due after 120k, which I had done exactly at this point in time. If you then don't do the maintenance, you deliberately risk engine damage. To collect almost € 500.00 for nothing is clearly a fraud.

The only question is, how are you going to conclusively prove that after 2 years?

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Originally written by woldo66

In my opinion it will be difficult to impossible. The age of the toothed belt can certainly be determined. But how are you going to prove that this is the timing belt that the workshop installed two years ago?

greeting

Woldo

They didn't use a used one, they gave my car back to me without doing anything.

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Originally written by Corsadiesel

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Originally written by TQuattroT

According to Audi, this repair was due after 120k, which I had done exactly at this point in time. If you then don't do the maintenance, you deliberately risk engine damage. To collect almost € 500.00 for nothing is clearly a fraud.

The only question is, how are you going to conclusively prove that after 2 years?

That's why I'm asking what is feasible and whether someone has already pulled off something like this.

In addition to the V-belt, I also have the defective tensioning pulleys. I bet the water pump wasn't changed either. Which would mean that these parts would already be 11 years old. If that could be proven, there should be enough evidence to convince a judge. I hope I am not wrong with this.

Oh yes, the company has three letters and starts with A. Just in case you're interested. I know, it's your own fault;)

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Originally written by TQuattroT

They didn't use a used one, they gave my car back to me without doing anything.

... you believe everything the birds chirp from the rooftops: D

Because someone told you so, is this so?

How can this "master" (lifeguard, caretaker are all masters) then predict (otisch) that a belt has run more than 50k or 70k, completely absurd in my eyes ...

If it wasn't two years ago you have a guarantee on the work, give it a try (why doesn't your master tell you this, he just wants to earn money)?

Remember, there are and will remain wear parts and a guarantee / goodwill for 120,000 km or seven years I have only seen from the manufacturer for the "first" belt from the factory ...

However, if you want to know exactly, then this master should keep his paws off the car and leave it to a professional (expert, would be perfect if he were sworn in) who checks whether this statement is right or wrong, nothing else will get you anywhere ...

http: //de.wikipedia.org/.../Sachverst%C3%A4ndiger? ...

Again. I was in the workshop for the tensioners. The probability that both parts will not last two years should be very low.

Guarantee on what, on fraud? Do you think I'll march into the workshop and they tell me: "Yes, sorry, we forgot to do it back then".

When the manufacturer writes that the service can be done within 120,000 km, it has less to do with the guarantee, but rather a statement about the durability with a little room for improvement.

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Originally written by TQuattroT

They didn't use a used one, they gave my car back to me without doing anything.

Oh yes, the company has three letters and starts with A.

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Section 186 of the Criminal Code

Defamation

Anyone who asserts or disseminates a fact in relation to another which is likely to make the same contemptible or to be degraded in public opinion, if this fact is not proven to be true, will be punished with imprisonment for up to one year or with a fine and, if the act is committed committed publicly or through the dissemination of writings (Section 11, Paragraph 3), punishable by imprisonment for up to two years or a fine.

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Originally written by zille1976

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Originally written by TQuattroT

They didn't use a used one, they gave my car back to me without doing anything.

Oh yes, the company has three letters and starts with A.

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Originally written by zille1976

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Section 186 of the Criminal Code

Defamation

Anyone who asserts or disseminates a fact in relation to another which is likely to make the same contemptible or to be degraded in public opinion, if this fact is not proven to be true, will be punished with imprisonment for up to one year or with a fine and, if the act is committed committed publicly or through the dissemination of writings (Section 11, Paragraph 3), punishable by imprisonment for up to two years or a fine.

Ever thought that someone from the company could read along with 3 letters?

Mfg Zille

Did you not get an invoice and thus received a (guarantee on the work according to the invoice)?

You should be fraudulent etc.pp be careful because if at all you have to prove that it is at all so and this is exactly what you do not decide, in case of doubt a judge will do this;)

I wonder why you didn't go to the manufacturer and now complain about possibly defective and poorer quality parts (because they are not original) which you have accepted?

I am of the opinion that you can shout a lot and for a long time, but if you don't have any evidence it doesn't work ...