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A new thread for 2020, the general one without the year only loads slowly. -------------------------------------------------- - Studies: Age: Experience: Subject: ----------------------------------------- ---------- Company details: ------------------------------------ --------------- Company: Region: Employees: ~ Accessibility. : ~ ------------------------------------------------ --- Information about the position: ------------------------------------------- -------- Function: Management: Activity: Working hours: Overtime: Vacation: Salary: Development: Additional achievements. :



Does this insane troll feed tread have to be continued every year? There are no real and honest statements from anyone.

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-------------------------------------------------- - Studies: Training as a salesperson, field service Age: 24 Experience: 6 years Area of ​​expertise: Customer acquisition ---------------------------------- ----------------- Company details: ----------------------------- ---------------------- Company: Sales Region: Stuttgart Employees: 800 Reachable. : Home office every day --------------------------------------------- ------ Information on the position: ---------------------------------------- ----------- Function: Salesman for outside area Management: None Activity: Acquiring customers, After Sales Working hours: 20 h - 40 h Overtime: none, as AT Vacation: 30d Salary: 106k All-in development: Salary varies greatly from 60k to 110k, as 70% basic salary, 30% bonus additional performance. : No

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Volker wrote:> A new thread for 2020, the general one without the year only loads> slowly. It's good, then maybe this nonsense will stop. You don't have to continue everything if it has not proven itself. This is just the honey pot for all internet trolls.



-------------------------------------------------- - Studies: Computer Engineering Age: 31 Experience: 4 years Subject: Security ----------------------------------- ---------------- Company details: ------------------------------ --------------------- Company: Group> 100,000 Region: NRW Employees:> 100,000 Accessibility. : ~ 1h car ---------------------------------------------- ----- Information about the position: ----------------------------------------- ---------- Function: Head of security department Leadership: 20 men Activity: Project management / development Working hours: 42h Overtime: approx. 5h / week Vacation: 26 Salary: 42k € Development: 36k, 38k, 40k, 42k additional services . : -


Come on, let's join in, although 80% are lying .. why always -_- It's anonymous .. nobody knows how great you are ... --------------- ------------------------------------ Studies: B.ENG. Age: 34 Experience: 7 years Industry Subject: Electrical engineering --------------------------------------- ------------ Company details: ---------------------------------- ----------------- Company: Mittelstand Region: South-East Hesse, small town / village region Employees: ~ 35 Accessibility. : ~ 5 minutes by car -------------------------------------------- ------- Information about the position: --------------------------------------- ------------ Function: Project manager and sales 40-50% travel activity Management: Workshop pool Activity: Selling equipment and putting it into operation (automotive) Working time: 40h o.-hours: Paying / flextime vacation : 30d (since 01.2019, from 25d) Salary: 65k Development: 2019 - 60k 2018 - 58k 2017 - 54k after change 2016 - 51k + allowances for stays abroad (reason for change. 80-90% abroad. Even if you have 70k in the year .) 2015 - 50k 2014 - 48k 2013 - 45k entry additional service : Success bonus + company car with full private use and fuel, company cell phone + private, laptop, economics, old-age provision (new) and liability + accident insurance Then there are a few delicacies such as Lufthansa only, Miles and More for private use, free hotel and rental car choice.



-------------------------------------------------- - Studies: BA Business Administration, M.Sc. Computer Science Age: 25 Experience: 1 year (+ working student etc.) Subject: --------------------------------- ------------------ Company details: ---------------------------- ----------------------- Company: KMU Region: Stuttgart Employees: 350 Accessibility. : ~ 20 min. Public transport -------------------------------------------- ------- Information about the position: --------------------------------------- ------------ Function: Software architect Management: - Activity: Software development (Embedded / Driver) Working hours: 40h o.-hours: flextime Vacation: 30d Salary: 60k additional work. : BAV, AVWL, subsidy for public transport ticket & canteen, free drinks Since I want a large penthouse apartment or a house in 5 years at the latest and cannot put aside enough (among other things) due to the high rent, I still have a part-time job : Company: Startup of a few rich acquaintances Function: Software developer as freelancer Activity: Software development Working hours: flexible (approx. 5h / week) O.-hours: flexible Salary: 2k / month, sometimes more, sometimes less When the startup goes through the roof , of course I get on there. Or I will go into business for myself. Let's see.



-------------------------------------------------- - Studies: Applied Computer Science Age: 27 Experience: 2 years Subject: none ----------------------------------- ---------------- Company details: ------------------------------ --------------------- Company: Startup Region: Berlin Employees: 9 Accessibility. : 45 minutes public transport ---------------------------------------------- ----- Information about the position: ----------------------------------------- ---------- Function: Software developer Leadership: none Activity: Software developer Working hours: 40h Overtime: 1h-2h Vacation: 28d Salary: 29k € Development: initial salary 27k € additional performance. : Table football, team events, free water, fruit, sweets



-------------------------------------------------- - Studies: - (secondary school, no training) Age: 38 Experience: 7 years Subject: none ------------------------------ --------------------- Company details: ------------------------- -------------------------- Company: Frankfurt Airport Region: Frankfurt am Main Employees: 21,000 Accessibility. : 15 minutes public transport + 30 minutes on foot to the train station --------------------------------------- ------------ Information about the position: ---------------------------------- ----------------- Function: Aviation security assistant Leadership: none Activity: Passenger control Working hours: 40h Overtime: many, depending on shift work Vacation: 30d Salary: 58k Development: initial salary 50k € additional performance : Same discounts as with the Federal Police



T.A. wrote:> Since I want a large penthouse apartment or house in 5 years at the latest and> cannot put aside enough (among other things) due to the high rent>, I have a part-time job ... >> When the startup is through the ceiling goes, I get in there, of course.> Or I go self-employed. Let's see. Respect. Very good. Finally someone with clear goals and the courage to try something new. Alternatively, would a career with the main employer be desirable? He ought to feel the train to his employee's gate too.



Until November 2019: Studies: WiInf (DHBW) Age: 38 Experience: 15 years Subject: IT ------------------------------ --------------------- Company details: ------------------------- -------------------------- Company: SME Region: Greater Stuttgart Employees: 200 Reachable. : 45 minutes ----------------------------------------------- ---- Information on the position: ------------------------------------------ --------- Function: Senior Software Engineer, Architect, Project Manager, Team Leader Leadership: Disciplinary in Germany, Professionally abroad Activity: Software development Working hours: sometimes up to 70h / week, a lot of travel time Overnight hours: Trust working hours , all paid vacation: 28 days salary: 73k + 10k (theoretically + 20k, so AllIn 93k, but that was just fake) additional power. : Discounted parking, company cell phone Unemployed since then.



Old hand wrote:> Would a career with the> main employer be an alternative? There it should end at around 120k. I would be extremely satisfied with that, but on the other hand I would like to go even higher and, above all, away from Stuttgart, because even with such a salary, a home like the one I would like to offer my wife and my children will only be bumpy. During my studies, through part-time jobs and friends, I made some interesting contacts with companies and other people who often ask me about projects. Most of it is of course garbage and badly paid, but if there is something interesting (like where I am at the moment), I like to invest a little time and I could well imagine doing it full-time with a few friends if the order situation is right to operate. Otherwise, it remains a nice pocket money on the side.



-------------------------------------------------- - Degree: Computer engineering Age: 33 Experience: 7 years Subject: actually none ---------------------------------- ----------------- Company details: ----------------------------- ---------------------- Company: *** Region: Bremen Employees: approx. 10 (many part-time employees) Accessibility. : 15 minutes (bike) -------------------------------------------- ------- Information about the position: --------------------------------------- ------------ Function: Software developer Leadership: none Activity: Software developer Working hours: 16h week Overtime: none Vacation: 12 days Salary: 1600 € Gross development: Newly started additional work. : no



Jens wrote:> Working hours: 16h week What should you imagine by that? Work 2 days, 5 days off? You always need a day out of two to get used to it.



Qwertz wrote:> What should one imagine by that? Work 2 days, 5 days off?> You always need a day out of two to get used to>>. Exactly.



Jens wrote:> Qwertz wrote:> What should you imagine by that? Work 2 days, 5 days off?> You always need a day out of two to get used to>> Exactly that. You can't get anything done, it can only be pill pill.



Qwertz wrote:> You can't get anything done, it can only be pill pill. That's not what this is about, I just indicated how it is. In fact, it is a startup with little financial capacity - but otherwise I will not increase it to more than 3 days. But I have no further desire to discuss it.



Jens wrote:> But I have no further desire to discuss it. That's right. You are only in a forum, who would come up with the absurd idea to discuss it.

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Every year again! —------------------------------------------------- - Degree: Electrical Engineering (M. Sc) Age: 28 Experience: 5 years Subject: Product launches ----------------------------- ---------------------- Company details: ------------------------ --------------------------- Company: Group Region: Bavaria Employees: A lot of accessibility. : 20 minutes by car ---------------------------------------------- ----- Information on the position: ----------------------------------------- ---------- Function: Global Product Marketing Manager Leadership: professional Activity: so Working hours: formal 40h week, real ~ 50h Overtime: a lot, unpaid based on trust (sometimes partying) Vacation: 30 days Salary: 92,000 € All -In gross development: Continuous ~ 2-3% + IGM pa additional power. : A couple of employee shares

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-------------------------------------------------- - Studies: --- Age: --- Experience: --- Subject: --- ----------------------------- ---------------------- Company details: ------------------------ --------------------------- Company: ****** Region: BW Employees:> 100,000 reachability. : --- ---------------------------------------------- ----- Information on the position: ----------------------------------------- ---------- Function: Salaried management: usually none, otherwise team leader or group or project leader Activity: Broadly diversified Working hours: standard 35h, according to quota 40h possible Overtime: flextime Vacation: 30,000 Salary group distribution over x thousand employees : AT Level 1 arbitrarily set to 100% for the purpose of standardization EG17: ~ 45% EG16: ~ 170% EG15: ~ 135% EG14: ~ 27% all other EG & AT each <27%



I'll have paid 42,043.80 in wage tax plus solos by the end of this year. Tax class 4. Your length comparison is so silly, because with all the shit work you are only fattening the insatiable state.



Pension at 76 wrote:> is so silly, because with all the shit work you are only fattening the insatiable state. I like to pay my income tax because when it's high, I've made a lot of net money. In addition, taxes essentially benefit the general public, which I am happy to support.



Qwertz wrote:> Retirement at 76 wrote:> It's so silly, because with all the shit work you are only fattening the insatiable state. >> I like to pay my income tax, because if it is high, I have> also made a lot of net money . In addition, taxes essentially> benefit the general public, which I am happy to support. In all honesty ... you are the ideal of the German Michel. It's almost like something out of a fairy tale book.